Epic Cards Battle

Hey, ECB, i can't understand your logic about rising so dramatic the price of Dominating pack. What do you think? The people will buy more? Or they will think "Aaah, now is better to buy Legacy pack, let's go to the shop!". Really, tell me pleas, what is your idea? Dominating pack was my favorite and you can see how many packs i've got- a lot of them! Now i will NEVER buy, also i was ready to spend some money to buy Epic card pack, but now will not. Why if the price is the same? Because I don't like your price politic. I will stay for now on game, i love this game, but if you continue this politic i'm sure that many people will go out.

I agree Yurko. I was expecting some discount - to see the prices decreased at least for some period. 139 diamonds is just too much. I have four ideas about this:

1. Keep this price (139 diamonds) BUT guarantee NEW LEGENDARY CARD in that pack. Guarantee that I will win a legendary card that I don't have. Now there is a question, what about the players that have all the legendary cards? They usually buy them directly via VIP. Plus, I doubt they will buy this pack if they have all the legendary cards. They will buy this pack every new version to get the new legendary cards.

2. Decrease the price as the old one. Don't forget, it was 89 diamonds, then you increased it to 99, and now its 139. Just too much...legendary cards are non available for free players.

3. Keep this price BUT give us strong discounts frequently, up to 30%.

4. Keep this price BUT decrease the price of the diamonds.

I will say again, a lot of players are disappointed because of this. Try to get new players guys, not to chase out these players.


Best regards
Goce

It is expensive, many people need a new card, it's not good policy

Actually i have enough legendary cards 20-35 lvl and this is enough for now. I don't need new cards, but i can buy to support the game if the price is acceptable. Now i will never buy!!!

what i think ECB might think is:
for new player the increase may no affect them, because they didn't purchase before, the price difference may not affect much.

for top payer, mostly the get all the card they want.


but this increment mostly affect player in between. we willing to pay to support this game but not for this price.

my suggestion is make a "Buy 3 free 1" packs. make it 417 diamonds (139x3) for 4 Dominating pack

the price slightly higher but player still need to pay cash to buy diamonds to get that amount of diamonds.

another suggestion will be increase the chance getting diamond/legend cards or make it have a small chance get epic.

I agree with yurko. As a player who has bought probably as many dominating packs as he has ,I feel you have just lost a paying customer. Me. This increase will both push away your LOYAL paying customers and scare away POTENTIAL paying customers. Bad move ECB. You will not receive another dime of my money, or support until this is corrected.

i will keep his simple and straightforward ecb. i respect your decision to raise prices but i must respectfully bow out of this game. My vision for this game was a game for the "people". i invested alot in this game because i envisioned a future of this game with hundreds of cards and tens of thousands of players if not millions. when i first started this game it was a thrilling game of the mind and i enjoyed taking down top players through strategy. over time i invested money in this game to get more cards and eventually became a top player myself. then one day i suddenly looked around me and realized whoaa. It is almost impossible to lose to 98% of yhe players out there. why is this i ask? these players have no cards, they have no rubies, and they have no money, they cannot afford this game. and most of all they have no hope. many of the great things youve done in the past like crystal flowers and daily login you have decided to do away with. i begin to say what is the point now so i hoped and prayed that ecb would devolop a future that involved more fair play - something like a cap tournament, greater card access, or greater ruby access. all of this have been taken away and you seem to wish to move im the opposite direction. i made many suggestions on yhe forum to make this game cheaper - mostly met with silence but hope. now i see the hope was misguided and silence confirmed. this is what i see. I see diamond reward cards go up to 350 from 200. I see dominating price packs go up almost 50%. one day you post on forum a new drawing system to make the game affordable and the next day you raise prices? i see my vision is misguided. i have friends who want to get into this game and you have just priced them out. who am i hoing to play against now? this game isnt gonna reach a million players with these kinds of prices and this ridiculous amount of grinding for free players. the second one realizes that this game takes a lot of money is the second they quit. it doesnt matter hiw fun the game is if ultimately there is no hope. you should be focusing on making customers "want" to spend money not "have" to. i will accept the fate of thise before me. i have reached the top only to realize the games is to much the "haves" vs "yhe have nots" and nownit is my time to bow out. if i am not a part of the solution i am part of the problem. ecb thank you for this gaming experience. it is not my intention to criticize your business model but when i see it is in conflict with my own i must let my conscience guide me.

i will leave you with this one last tidbit to consider. competition drives down prices. your game is unique and you have no competitors bit alot of unhappy folks. at these prices you do nothing but restrict your growth and invite new competitors into your market share. what will happen if you wake up one day and there is a new game on the market like yours but with cheaper prices and better rewards for grinders? will all your unsatisfied customers choose to stay or will you be left with a handful if pay players looking around wondering what just happened? if you do not do the right thing now you WILL be forced to do the right thing later. you must focus on your free players and you will enjoy the fruits of your talents. bring back the daily rewards with gold, rubies, and diamonds. bring back crystal flowers with proxy epics. give your free players hope and then watch them upgrade their free epics and become pay players. the second one realizes there is no hope they will not invest so much of their time in this game. i have said before that as long as i believe in your game i will be a loyal supporter. ecb i have lost faith in your vision.

Dear ECB,

As i can write both Chinese and English, therefore i would like to add some comments and bring the attention of some players who can not speak English to this. (因为我能写中文及英文两种语言，所以本人希望表达自己的一些意见及引起其他不太会英文的玩家也来关注一下 )

Firstly, i love this game very much, and after two months playing this game i have decided to buy diamonds and upgrade myself to VIP6. However the latest price system make me worried about this game future. (首先，本人十分喜欢此游戏，因此在做了2个月的普通玩家后决定买一些蓝钻并且升级至VIP6。但最近一些游戏当中的价钱设定使我担心游戏将来的发展.)

Like some players already explained here. If you are pay player with all sort of legendary cards, you would not buy this pack anymore. But if you are free player, due to price increase you would not buy card. In both situation, ECB you are killing your game. (像有些玩家在此处解释，如果你是一名付费买卡的玩家而已有了所有的紫卡，所以他们不会再买。但果你是一名普通玩家， 因价格上涨你也不会买卡。 所以在两种情况下， 你都是在扼杀此游戏.)

So the question right now is how to attract new players and make them pay to buy cards? But not to increase the price of the pack to make money. (所以现在的问题在于如何引进多些玩家及吸引玩家买卡? 而不是将卡牌的价钱提高去使此游戏赚钱.)

Therefore i have several suggestion for you ECB (我以下有几个提议给ECB你参考)

1) offer more discount on diamonds and provide special discount on card packs (提供多些蓝钻折扣及特别时间买卡折扣优惠)

2) daily reward should be added as this is really helpful to new players, and of cause you do not necessarily reward with cards (每日登录奖励应该重新放於游戏中因对新玩家很有帮助, 当然你不一定要奖卡.)

3) 10k pack should be added so that for those who are not willing to buy cards can have hope and stay in the game. (10000金币的卡牌应该重新放於游戏中使不是太想买蓝钻的玩家有点希望. 使他们继续玩此游戏.)

Please tell us what you think of those suggestion? (烦请你告诉我们对此的看法?)

ECB i have only one question!!

how do you make with every version 1 one great think and 10 stupid?
do u have some special guidance or what...

1. Ladder matching up is funny..by funny i mean idiotic..instead of fighting with a lot of players i m playing constantly with same (top) 40 guys...in the morning if i push search i know exactly who is my opponent...

2.raise price of pack...hello guys..your prizes are already to high...for 4000$ that chinese guy spent like few others they should be gods..in other games they will have probably all that can get for cash..i can write a lot of things but i will stop because i m very disappointed with your moves..simply i don t care anymore..i start support you after long i time i was free player...well that s it...no more money for you..

Going to copy some of my post in the Announcement thread:

Since the release of your Players Online addition we can all see that 500 players max are on at once. It is nice, but can and should be MUCH higher! You have such a great game but as much as you dont want to hear it, It is still too expensive to compete. These high prices would be justified if you had 50,000 players playing or even a few thousand players. There is still the problem of lesser players being smashed in Ladder by strong players and this is because of lack of player base. If 5,000 players were online someone who spent $100 or nothing would NEVER see someone who like me, spent a lot and is much stronger. Same with just quick mode. The matching system could be tighter if many more players were playing and fights would be much more fair.

You simply do not have the numbers to raise the prices, yet I understand that is why you need to have high prices. You dont have that many active players. It is a fine line. You still need to keep the players that you do have HAPPY. Raising prices does not do this. Take some of my money I spent and advertise the game. You have such a unique TCG here and not enough people know about it. And like Bookie said, Ive tried to get my friends into this game, but it is too dam expensive. in 10+ friends who i had download ECB, every single one left in a week when they realized the structure. And these are guys who have spent $100s on Magic the Gathering cards with myself.

Loyal players like Goce and Smoki are even getting frustrated when all they run into in ladder are top players. And they know us from our chat. We are all friends in there. Anyone from the outside would get much more fed up with getting beat and I can see putting the game down. More players = more fair matches = less frustration.

You do not have a guaranteed incentive for players to grind out matches. Loyal players who play your game alot need to be rewarded. I have a few ideas that I think you should highly consider:

I think something along the lines of Spending 5, 10, 50 Diamonds to pick 1 card. It should look something like this:

5 Diamonds: 1 CARD: 10% chance for Legendary. 20% chance Diamond. 70% chance Gold. (IF spending Diamonds NO silver cards should be drawn if it is only to be ONE card)

10 Diamonds: 1 CARD: 25% Legendary. 45% Diamond. 30% Gold

25 Diamonds: 1 CARD: 70% Legendary. 30% Diamond

Something like this I feel will be welcomed by everyone. YOU NEED TO START GIVING BACK

Every 5, 10, 25, 50 days from free diamonds to get a chance at a decent card. Would even entice players to purchase Diamonds and use them to try and gamble on a Legendary.

AND a Gold pack that is very expensive. Like 20,000 or 30,000 Gold. Gives a few cards and GUARANTEES 1 Legendary. It takes time to get to 30,000 gold and players STILL NEED something set in stone to be playing towards. Giving a loyal player 1 Legendary card about once a month for reaching 30,000 Gold is the LEAST you can do. You simply do not have the player base to keep pushing away players and not rewarding so much play and dedication to your game.

Please hear us. Nobody is happy with increase prices or doing away with card packs and only acquiring cards with DIamonds with a CHANCE of something good.