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Well it looks like you did it

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:44 pm
by Sickboy254698
Congratulate yourselves ECB developers. You've done it and I have proof. You've driven away so many players that I've only won 14 matches and I'm in 150th place for the current ladder. Based on the prizes I'll get I might as well stop right there and take the same crappy prize for 150th everyone except first gets.

I'm sorry for being a jerk but you guys are idiots. Complete idiots. You are sitting on a gold mine. One that you obviously put a lot of time and effort into creating. One that could be immensely popular. In my opinion its the best digital card game around. I havent enjoyed a card game so much since playing Magic back in high school almost 20 years ago. You are letting this game die a slow painful death because you don't listen to feedback from players, you don't update your website or tell anyone about the game, and best of all you ignore the people who post in the forums trying so hard to help you. Money isn't everything but walking away from it like this makes you very stupid. All your changes are to little to late. You should have taken advice when people still thought you gave enough of a shit to give it.

Maybe I'm wrong and you can string some of us along with your updates that address none of the games major issues but for how long? Not long from what I hear in game chat and read in your forums. Too bad you don't seem to care. You really did make a great game.

Re: Well it looks like you did it

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:42 am
by PennFifteen
Thanks for your feedback. We will be sure to piss you off even more in our next update.

Re: Well it looks like you did it

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:46 am
by PennFifteen
Sickboy254698 wrote:
I'm sorry for being a jerk but you guys are idiots. Complete idiots. You are sitting on a gold mine. One that you obviously put a lot of time and effort into creating. One that could be immensely popular. In my opinion its the best digital card game around....
Too bad you don't seem to care. You really did make a great game.
This times 1 million. Best mobile card game around and no one knows about it. Also too expensive and shuns away players that do play. I have gotten at least 5 of my friends to try this game. Who have all gotten hard core into TCG games. We all played Magic together for awhile. They left in a week because of no promise of good cards, even with tons of playing.

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Re: Well it looks like you did it

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:02 am
by ecb_admin
We are really sorry about it. Even though the game has been updated with 10 major versions in the past one and half year, but there are still flaws. Maybe we didn't work hard enough in the past.
There are a lot of restrictions that our players may not be aware of.
But we won't give up, as long as there are players left to like this game, we will continue to develop it, for those who have been supported since the beginning. For example, PennFifteen.

Re: Well it looks like you did it

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:02 pm
by bobdabear
Would you at least tell us what some of these restrictions are? Some insight as to why or how things are done would go a long ways with us.

Re: Well it looks like you did it

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:57 pm
by Ironbunt
Sickboy254698 can definitely appreciate your sentiments. I was one of the first early adopters, and having been there since the very beginning and communicating with them regularly, I know for a fact that they are doing their best to take up player suggestions. I'm sure if you specify your concerns they will have something tangible to work with.

Keep in mind as well that we are not dealing with a massive games company like Gameloft or Supercell, who have hundreds of staff and hundreds of thousands of dollars to invest into R&D. Hopefully in time ECB will grow into this calibre, but until then enjoy the game, flaws and all :)

Re: Well it looks like you did it

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:09 pm
by gmelchior
I just came here to post something very similar, and found this thread. So i might as well get it off my shoulders here...

I feel exactly the same way. This game is greate, but slowly and steadily i get utterly frustarated. I'm not willing to put 100s of dollars into this. 10 here and there are ok, but even this doesn't seem to work. I just got annihilated 5 times in a row in ladder. Sometimes it's just so bad that i couldn't win, even if i knew every single card my opponent plays.
Please, seriously, consider the post from bookie where he talks about varity and good card coices, aber chances to win even for ppl like us.

Ladder just got so infuriating for free and low level money players. I try to do the 5 wins a day, but even this seems impossible nowadays. I have a feeling that only the pay players stick around. And honestly it's no funn whatsoever. You jsut see red dragons, creators, succubus queens and elven fu* seduction flying around.
I think i stop right here, you guys get what i mean. What's the point of playing?

also this is a CCG. But i think the last new card i got was when i finished the quests of the last update. wtf? the money packs are just useless. Lucky Star pack just gets on my nerves. i play with the same set of cards since almost the beginning. An playing Ladder to get new cards is just not satisfying. All ladder rewards where cards i already had! I think you need to do something here. would it be sooo bad if the ladder rewards where cards you don't own already? you could limit it to 3* cards and ranks < 200 or so. But like this there would be some more fun in Ladder. And perhaps i could cope with the many defeats from the money boys.

You guys seriously need to do something to get my on board again. There are so many really good suggestions on this board, please listen to at least a few of them.

I think i need to stop playing this for a while now. And as Sickboy said, once you are somewhere around 100 in Ladder, better stop playing. You just get smashed more likely anyways and loose so many DP.

Anyways, ECB, fixing this game is only in you interest. You want players who are willing to spend a buck here and there. But currently i'm not one of them any more. And it seems like you're loosing them fast.

One last thing: why is there to T in you CCG? would trading hurt this game? I'd love it. At least you could get rid of your quadrouples... just an idea.

bye now
--gmelchior

Re: Well it looks like you did it

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:42 pm
by smoki2vu
no matter how hard u work or u didn t problem is same...

1. your prices are to high...most players are free or low pay player. top players are big spender but they don t spent to much now because they have already all...real potencial is in low pay player or free player...u drain money from big guys..why you not try something different.

like melchior said in his post, it s frustrating to fight with top 40-50 guys without chance and prospective future...players will eventually leave...guys u have to admit; u create a monster and now u don t know how to deal with him...if u give some epic to all player u lose to much, if u give legendary also losing..i think u need make more balance between your greed and generosity...

next, did you ever think that creator is not very good idea for game? I mean now it s to late, people buy that card. I think that card was your biggest mistake...

i m not big spender..i spent less than 100$ but i m here long enough to say something.
please think about your greedy-creator mistake and other dumb think u did..(not talking about bugs)

just one more thought:it is sad to play more than 9 months and after whole eternity not have any epic or chance for epic unless u pay...is that prize for loyal players? Just think about that with your morning coffee...

i wish u best and i hope u will read this but how things look now u are not on good way...

Re: Well it looks like you did it

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:37 am
by PennFifteen
ecb_admin wrote:We are really sorry about it. Even though the game has been updated with 10 major versions in the past one and half year, but there are still flaws. Maybe we didn't work hard enough in the past.
There are a lot of restrictions that our players may not be aware of.
But we won't give up, as long as there are players left to like this game, we will continue to develop it, for those who have been supported since the beginning. For example, PennFifteen.
Thanks for the reply. We come off harsh sometimes because we love your game very much, it should be most played card game on mobile.

You may have restrictions but the two things that are hurting your game the most, you have complete control over:

Price and card availability.

Yes I and other have shelled out a lot of money on your game, it is because it is so good. But not everyone is going to do that.

Players need to get better cards. A set goal that can guarantee Diamond and Legendary cards to loyal and hard working players. Your chat is full of people complaining about not getting stronger cards. They want more Diamond and some Legendary here and there. Also not duplicates. Not crying for Epics.

There NEEDS to be a card pack that a player can purchase with 40,000 or 50,000 Gold that will guarantee a Legendary card. One that DO NOT already have. A player who grinds lots of gold deserves some reward. Not a terrible chance of getting something good.

Re: Well it looks like you did it

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:15 am
by ecb_admin
PennFifteen wrote:
ecb_admin wrote:We are really sorry about it. Even though the game has been updated with 10 major versions in the past one and half year, but there are still flaws. Maybe we didn't work hard enough in the past.
There are a lot of restrictions that our players may not be aware of.
But we won't give up, as long as there are players left to like this game, we will continue to develop it, for those who have been supported since the beginning. For example, PennFifteen.
Thanks for the reply. We come off harsh sometimes because we love your game very much, it should be most played card game on mobile.

You may have restrictions but the two things that are hurting your game the most, you have complete control over:

Price and card availability.

Yes I and other have shelled out a lot of money on your game, it is because it is so good. But not everyone is going to do that.

Players need to get better cards. A set goal that can guarantee Diamond and Legendary cards to loyal and hard working players. Your chat is full of people complaining about not getting stronger cards. They want more Diamond and some Legendary here and there. Also not duplicates. Not crying for Epics.

There NEEDS to be a card pack that a player can purchase with 40,000 or 50,000 Gold that will guarantee a Legendary card. One that DO NOT already have. A player who grinds lots of gold deserves some reward. Not a terrible chance of getting something good.
1. Price
Usually most of games will have different pricing strategies for different regions. But ECB's nature is it want to unite all players to play together on same server. The thing is in different regions, player's spending behaviors are quite different. ECB's pricing may be higher than average in some regions, but are also below than average in other regions.
This is for example, one of the restrictions for the game. It's universal, so that pricing has to be set at a mid-point.
Perhaps you think that's some nonsense and excuses. You can search and find out how EA's "Plants vs zombies 2"'s pricing differences in different countries.

2. Card availability.
In new version, there will be cards craft system. It definitely improve the situation.
And there will be better rewards in the new version.