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I propose the Hardcore mode!!! From an old timer ^^

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:02 pm
by kangerx83
Hey guys once again just wanted to clarify that I have been playing this game since version 1.0, which in my
opinion was the most fun and rewarding.

Just to give a little background in the beginning (v1.0) there were no epic rarity cards and there was no practice or
much anything of options.

All games were lootable games and there were minimal tutorials.

So each game you played you either lost some cards or gained some cards.

And it was never hard to find a match because that was the only type of game offered. You never had to sit around
for 5 min finding that 300 gold game or a loot game. And i would like this game to return to it's roots a little bit
to it's glory days.

Henceforth the Hardcore mode or I could even call it the classic mode!

So what is the Hardcore mode that I propose?

Hardcore mode
1. All cards are lootable including epic, (you can still revive)
2. All card levels are set to 1
3. That is all... enjoy ^^

Now forseeable problems - No one will play this mode and trying to find a match will take forever again.

Here is the incentive to play the mode.

Whether you win or lose you gain gold. Obviously the gold can't be more or equal to how much you need to revive.

So just to make it simple.

You lose 200 gold, you win 500 gold.

What do you guys think? Would you play this mode?

Re: I propose the Hardcore mode!!! From an old timer ^^

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:06 am
by ecb_admin
kangerx83 wrote:Hey guys once again just wanted to clarify that I have been playing this game since version 1.0, which in my
opinion was the most fun and rewarding.

Just to give a little background in the beginning (v1.0) there were no epic rarity cards and there was no practice or
much anything of options.

All games were lootable games and there were minimal tutorials.

So each game you played you either lost some cards or gained some cards.

And it was never hard to find a match because that was the only type of game offered. You never had to sit around
for 5 min finding that 300 gold game or a loot game. And i would like this game to return to it's roots a little bit
to it's glory days.

Henceforth the Hardcore mode or I could even call it the classic mode!

So what is the Hardcore mode that I propose?

Hardcore mode
1. All cards are lootable including epic, (you can still revive)
2. All card levels are set to 1
3. That is all... enjoy ^^

Now forseeable problems - No one will play this mode and trying to find a match will take forever again.

Here is the incentive to play the mode.

Whether you win or lose you gain gold. Obviously the gold can't be more or equal to how much you need to revive.

So just to make it simple.

You lose 200 gold, you win 500 gold.

What do you guys think? Would you play this mode?
Thank you for playing this game since v1.0. :)

To reply to your question, it's not comprehensive at all.
Why people buy an epic card and let other player to loot? Noone would be play this mode with Epic cards.

Well, thanks for the suggestion though. Be prepared for v1.6, there will be lots of stuff.

Re: I propose the Hardcore mode!!! From an old timer ^^

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:24 am
by kangerx83
First of all ^^ Harsh response ^^ Saying that the idea sucks because you may not make more money out of this ^^

To clarify I want you guys to make money ^^ I have shared before that this is the only game in the ios or market store that I spent, to me a significant amount of, money on. I spend 25 dollars on a android TCG. Which I think it extremely appropriate.

I am a console gamer and a pc gamer so for me a good game is worth 60 dollars an average game is worth 30 dollars and casual games are with up to 5 dollars.

The fact that I dropped 25 dollars on this game shows where I value this game.

To answer you question. If the hardcore mode is proposed then obviously the price of the epic cards should drop, and they should anyways. In my honest opinion 50 dollars for a digital card a total rip off ^^.

Many of us who are actually playing and enjoying your game is telling you guys this. Make things cheaper and more people will buy. Don't try to make lots of money of a few but a little money off many. I hope that makes sense ^^

Yes very few people would use the epic cards in hardcore mode but that is kind of the point, have a place where more balanced gameplay and strategy is valued. Henceforth more people are interested and more people are playing.

My hope is that 10 times more people place this game. Maybe 90% of those people just play it without paying, but the remaining 10% will spend more money and you guys will make more money ^^

Your customer from the beginning ^^

Re: I propose the Hardcore mode!!! From an old timer ^^

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:14 pm
by Pr0digy
Wow, that *WAS* pretty harsh. These are just suggestions--something to just think about. If it doesn't work, well, it doesn't work. An explanation would suffice, but insulting one of your most loyal customers? Try some tact man, or hire somebody to answer questions like that in the forum who has some.

Your standard go-to answer is always "send me more money". If you read these forums carefully, we are all saying, "We want to send you money, but here are some ideas to make it so more people will play." I'm getting real tired of hitting "Find match" - "Cancel" - "Find Match" - "Cancel" for hours on end just to play against the same 5 players. We understand you want to make money so you can sleep on a mountain of cash and swim around in it like Scrooge McDuck (did I just date myself?). But that swarm of money isn't going to come in until you make this more appealing for the masses.

So please, listen to us, and for crying out loud, don't be offensive, rude, crass, defensive, and petty. Especially toward somebody who was just offering a suggestion in a forum called "feedback and suggestions."

Re: I propose the Hardcore mode!!! From an old timer ^^

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:25 pm
by kangerx83
Pr0digy wrote:Wow, that *WAS* pretty harsh. These are just suggestions--something to just think about. If it doesn't work, well, it doesn't work. An explanation would suffice, but insulting one of your most loyal customers? Try some tact man, or hire somebody to answer questions like that in the forum who has some.

Your standard go-to answer is always "send me more money". If you read these forums carefully, we are all saying, "We want to send you money, but here are some ideas to make it so more people will play." I'm getting real tired of hitting "Find match" - "Cancel" - "Find Match" - "Cancel" for hours on end just to play against the same 5 players. We understand you want to make money so you can sleep on a mountain of cash and swim around in it like Scrooge McDuck (did I just date myself?). But that swarm of money isn't going to come in until you make this more appealing for the masses.

So please, listen to us, and for crying out loud, don't be offensive, rude, crass, defensive, and petty. Especially toward somebody who was just offering a suggestion in a forum called "feedback and suggestions."
Prodigy I just want to thank you for replying to this and standing up for a fellow player ^^

To the devs, I just want to clarify again, I think this TCG has the most potential out of all the ios/android TCG's I have ever played. Yes I am playing Elemental Kingdoms right now but I have no intention to drop any money down on it. For this game I am already invested. So really best of luck to your game ^^.

I plan to stick around some more ^^ So still have hope in you guys! Merry Christmas!

Re: I propose the Hardcore mode!!! From an old timer ^^

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:30 am
by black2wave
kangerx83 wrote:Hey guys once again just wanted to clarify that I have been playing this game since version 1.0, which in my
opinion was the most fun and rewarding.

Just to give a little background in the beginning (v1.0) there were no epic rarity cards and there was no practice or
much anything of options.

All games were lootable games and there were minimal tutorials.

So each game you played you either lost some cards or gained some cards.

And it was never hard to find a match because that was the only type of game offered. You never had to sit around
for 5 min finding that 300 gold game or a loot game. And i would like this game to return to it's roots a little bit
to it's glory days.

Henceforth the Hardcore mode or I could even call it the classic mode!

So what is the Hardcore mode that I propose?

Hardcore mode
1. All cards are lootable including epic, (you can still revive)
2. All card levels are set to 1
3. That is all... enjoy ^^

Now forseeable problems - No one will play this mode and trying to find a match will take forever again.

Here is the incentive to play the mode.

Whether you win or lose you gain gold. Obviously the gold can't be more or equal to how much you need to revive.

So just to make it simple.

You lose 200 gold, you win 500 gold.

What do you guys think? Would you play this mode?


Hello i like the idea of hardcore mode but thats diffinetly not ahardcore mode brother

In Hardcore mode for those who are full of them selfs and really beat the normal mode and the loot mode

again in ahardcore mode those who lose should let ahigh screem of pain :P yes true
and those who won should be freaking happy oh !! wait but that shouldnt do it alone they should be still in risky business

so now how to fix this !! Let me Tell you how we can implemnt a HC mode on this game

First of all there should not be abig advantage of those who uses money over normal ppl and yet we cant let those who paid money suffer as will So ...


HardCore Rules



1. All cards Rest to level one and eligible to enter the The Hardcore arena
**( The player Need Anormal Cards to enter Or HardCore cards))
**Normal Cards ( those who you get by paying gold/cash Silver-Epic)
**Hard Core Cards ( anycard you won through the Hardcore Arena)
2.No revive option and no Vip Protection

3.The loser wont be able to use these Cards again on Hardcore ((but can be used in other modes If they are normal cards )) and they will be Marked by Level 1 HC If they was ((normal Cards))
Level 1 HC means = ( once aspeisfc card lose in HC game the card will be marked as 1HC and that mean you need at least 2 of that card to summon him again on the HC battle . etc ( if 2 loses with the same card you need to have 3x of that card to summon him again as a single card ...


4. The winner Get to take all of the Cards But they will be Marked As HC Only Cards means its not possible to play them in any other mode and once you lose them they are gone for good :) !!
!
5. Finally Inculde A hardCore Deck which contain the Cards you won from Hc Mode

Thats how We can implement Agood game environment and risk factor and less QQ for people :D and give them a Hardcore mode



as for Admin thats not the way admins and even the creator of the game should talk like to his normal customers not even the payers or the loyal

so please Dear loyal player accpet my deepesit apolize as i dont like to stay and play alone within one of the great games these days

Re: I propose the Hardcore mode!!! From an old timer ^^

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:22 pm
by Pr0digy
Here's a twist...

What if instead of betting gold or a deck of cards, you bet one card. It would give us something to do with some of the cards you accumulate but don't use. So this is what I imagine:

1) You bet a card, silver through legend (or, heck, go epic.... that could get interesting).
2) You play either pro or normal game. In pro-mode, if you time out, you lose the card you bet.
3) You get matched up with somebody who bets the same level of card. So if I bet a "heal" card, I'm matched against somebody else who bet a silver-level card. If I bet a "Devil's Daughter" card, I'll be matched with somebody who bet a legend-level card.
4) You are in no jeopardy of losing any cards in your hand, only the card you bet.
5) Revivals? You decide. Obviously, ebc_admin benefits if somebody does revive (since that money goes to the bank).
6) You win, you get the card that was put up against you. You lose, you lose the card you put up in the ante.
7) Reset all cards to level 1 in this mode? Your call. That could add a requirement that you put more thought into strategy as opposed to playing the cards you upgraded most.

I'd play a lot in this mode if you implemented it. :)

-Pr0digy

Re: I propose the Hardcore mode!!! From an old timer ^^

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:19 pm
by kangerx83
Sup guys ^^ Thanks for the continued input ^^

TBH Black2wave I love your input in the other areas concerning the epic cards as well as the new cards but your idea on
hardcore mode makes it too complicated I feel. For the game makers and the player as well.

Unless you just completely separate the two.

If you don't I think simpler the better.


For prodigy ^^. I think just betting a card would be boring because everyone would just bet the most unpopular cards. So people would end up just having a lot of low level cards.

Once again, the simplicity of lose lose all, win gain all is most appealing to me ^^

Re: I propose the Hardcore mode!!! From an old timer ^^

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:54 pm
by black2wave
kangerx83 wrote:Sup guys ^^ Thanks for the continued input ^^

TBH Black2wave I love your input in the other areas concerning the epic cards as well as the new cards but your idea on
hardcore mode makes it too complicated I feel. For the game makers and the player as well.

Unless you just completely separate the two.

If you don't I think simpler the better.


For prodigy ^^. I think just betting a card would be boring because everyone would just bet the most unpopular cards. So people would end up just having a lot of low level cards.

Once again, the simplicity of lose lose all, win gain all is most appealing to me ^^






Hello sorry brother it looks like i made it campilcted but i will make it simple to you


1. cards level doesnt matter on HC they are all the same lvl 1
2.losing card no matter what was the rarity is possible
3. reviving card is not possible on HC
4. the normal cards can be used in Hard core until you lose with them
5. after losing normal card in Hardcore mode its not possible to use it gain in Hardcore mode
( so its prement lose on HC only ) but to make it fair for those who paied money and those who is skilled and to avoid dublcation of cards its no longer possible to use the same card that you lose with in Hardcore mode

6. wining on hardcore grant you cards can be used only on Hardcore while losing with them remove them for Hardcore eligble cards
7. to avoid missing up the things we create aHC Deck
8. there should be amark on the cards that tells you how many times did u lose with this card after losing the card
it will disper from your hardcore deck only :D

is it clear :D

Re: I propose the Hardcore mode!!! From an old timer ^^

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:59 am
by Pr0digy
kangerx83 wrote:For prodigy ^^. I think just betting a card would be boring because everyone would just bet the most unpopular cards. So people would end up just having a lot of low level cards.^
Possibly... there are a few cards I don't play that others do, and visa versa. Some cards might become a "well,I'll just bet that one" kind of card, but ecb can see which ones get moved around a lot and either buff them or get rid of them.

Plus, I accumulate a lot of heal cards. I'd play those too, instead of sacrificing them for a couple measly rubies.