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1.6 Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:15 am
by PennFifteen
Thought it would be nice to have a composed discussion on the latest patch v1.6.

First of all, I think you did a very good job ecb_admin. The chat is awesome, daily rewards is awesome, ladder system about to start is awesome, next campaign and repeatable campaign is awesome.

Two things come to mind though.

I have seen alot of people in chat that arnt too happy about not being able to buy Diamond cards anymore. I know they CAN be obtained throught the 2300 Gold Lucky Card Pack. But I am afraid the chance is too small. I really feel the pack, which is the 'best' you one can get while only spending Gold, should guarantee 1 Diamond card. It would make the newer players much happier. A few said they dont want to play anymore because it is really hard to get DIamond cards now. Thats a sad face.

A complete list of card changes would be nice. I've noticed the Gargoyle starting and bonus Defense decreased. Heal now heals a significantly less now. Others as well that I havnt seen probably. It would be good to read everything that has been changed.

All in all. Good job I think. Just the glaring issue of hard to get DIamond cards now doesnt look too appealing to the newer players, who also dont want to spend money yet.

Re: 1.6 Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:26 am
by PennFifteen
The new/er people are the ones you have to consider when making changes IMO. Not ALL changes but ones that let them acquire cards. They NEED to feel like they can compete or it is pointless for them.

People like me, Pr0digy, topdekx Catty W ect. weve already spent 100's of dollars. We will always come back. The ones who havnt spent money need a reason to stick around, and probably spend some money eventually.

Just my thoughts ECB. Please consider the new guys. All of us here want this game to continue to grow.

Re: 1.6 Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:45 am
by kissbb
PennFifteen wrote:Thought it would be nice to have a composed discussion on the latest patch v1.6.

First of all, I think you did a very good job ecb_admin. The chat is awesome, daily rewards is awesome, ladder system about to start is awesome, next campaign and repeatable campaign is awesome.

Two things come to mind though.

I have seen alot of people in chat that arnt too happy about not being able to buy Diamond cards anymore. I know they CAN be obtained throught the 2300 Gold Lucky Card Pack. But I am afraid the chance is too small. I really feel the pack, which is the 'best' you one can get while only spending Gold, should guarantee 1 Diamond card. It would make the newer players much happier. A few said they dont want to play anymore because it is really hard to get DIamond cards now. Thats a sad face.

A complete list of card changes would be nice. I've noticed the Gargoyle starting and bonus Defense decreased. Heal now heals a significantly less now. Others as well that I havnt seen probably. It would be good to read everything that has been changed.

All in all. Good job I think. Just the glaring issue of hard to get DIamond cards now doesnt look too appealing to the newer players, who also dont want to spend money yet.
I agree with you, the most frustrating problem you can't get garanted diamond cards. I bought today 2 lucky stars pack 0 diamond card, i dont know what the odds to get one,but i think its very low. You should make the price higher like 3k gold for the pack and garanted 3 silver card, 1 gold card and 1 diamond card!
The other bad change is the rubies, why we can't buy 200 rubies for 8k gold? Like cmon it was not cheap but it was something goal for farming...

The balance change:
I noticed some : meteors base dmg nerfed heavely
: Cyclops little buff
: The Hero really nice buff, 50% hp recover if he kill somebody
: Heal is pretty weak now, base heal only 400
: Meteor nerf, i think that was needed
: Princess Mia, this is pretty big nerf
: Hot ninja this rework is nerf for her i think, sometimes can be good card, this card i see hard too balance
: Thunergod's Wrath Like the +5% buff, but maybe this a little bit too much :)
: : Death Tower, intresting change i think its mostly a nerf, but some case could work
: Magic Overwhelm: I really like this nerf, because this card was very OP, dmg and CD Nerf
: Goddess' Favor: I think its great change like it

I dont have so many card so this is what a saw. Maybe aphrodite changed too the dmg is now magic and it was special if i remember correctly...

The energy system change is great, and like the campaing too.

Re: 1.6 Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:32 am
by PennFifteen
Goddess's Favor buff was needed. I think it is usable now.

Yeah, Aphrodite was Special dmg before..

Who puts out an update with out letting us, the players, some heavily payed users, all the changes? cmon maaaaan

I wasn't aware we couldnt buy 200 rubies for 8k gold anymore... That is pretty lame. :cry:

Unless they implement Card Experience, I feel we need a way to get Rubies aside from the 20-50 from daily quests and Campaign.

Penn15

Re: 1.6 Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:38 pm
by Veldar
I want this game like me, but they make me very hard.

I'am a free player and i'am ready to unistall the game because i can't have any chance to win vs spenders, any. I just used more tan 25.000 gold in packs and i get 1 diamond card. And i have 0% chance to get Legendary or Epic cards some day (because are only available with real money).

I need to play 24h a day, each day to have some diamonds and maybe after months i'll can evolve a card at max... no sir, i don't want to play only for the joy of spenders, i will not be a punching bag for the people who spend real money.

I'am agree that people who spends real money have advantatges to get better cards more easily. But i want the opportunity, as a free player, to get that cards and diamonds; with more difficulties, ok, but i want legendary and epic cards.

if you make a game only for spenders, you'll get a game where only spenders would play. If you want a game for all the people... make changes, inmediately, because people is ready to leave the game at this moment.

Re: 1.6 Discussion

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:42 am
by PennFifteen
You have to listen to this guy ECB.

People want to play but you are giving them too many reasons to not play.

Re: 1.6 Discussion

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:47 am
by PennFifteen
Also, I appreciate the change to the Match making system to try to lvl it out, but I CAN NOT find a Pro Mode fight. The quick battle is also taking too long now.

Maybe lower the standards to whom we get matched up with. Because the Ladder System is going to be heavily played and that is where, I assume, the really good 'fair fights' will occur.

It takes at least 5x the amount of time to find a Coin Bet match. It is frustrating.

Re: 1.6 Discussion

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:38 am
by Pr0digy
PennFifteen wrote:Also, I appreciate the change to the Match making system to try to lvl it out, but I CAN NOT find a Pro Mode fight. The quick battle is also taking too long now.

Maybe lower the standards to whom we get matched up with. Because the Ladder System is going to be heavily played and that is where, I assume, the really good 'fair fights' will occur.

It takes at least 5x the amount of time to find a Coin Bet match. It is frustrating.
Agreed. It was often hard enough finding a match before, now it is just frustrating. Tighten the standards when you have a ton of people playing. I do assume more people are playing the campaigns and afterwards will spend more time in the combat stuff, but according to chat, I've yet to see more than 20 people on at a time. That is not enough variety to get picky. And the ladder system? I haven't really seen it in action yet, but I get the feeling that the only people walking away with coins and diamonds will be the ones who need it least (e.g., the top 25 on the leaderboard). Am I wrong on this assumption?

My biggest question is... what is up with these two one-hour windows to play certain modes and amounts? I don't want to play a game to fit your schedule, I want games that fit my schedule! Is this for real, or will this go away in time (pun not intended)?

Re: 1.6 Discussion

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:50 am
by redpipe
So far Lucky Stars packs = 4, diamond cards = 0. All 4 packs with the exception of 1 had the basic 1 gold minimum. There were 2 in the other...woooo, look at me go.

A word of advice from someone who has worked in gaming for over 20 years, the easiest way to lose your paying clientele is make them feel they are not getting value for money, you will reap rewards and expand your customer base by giving people what they want, the good word spreads, etc. greed is a profit killer.

Re: 1.6 Discussion

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:53 am
by winstonz
We need a list of all the official changes .
Does anyone know if we reverse the enhancements do we get all the rubies back?