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About coin and filling up deck for free user

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:05 am
by decoplo
for anyone who have experience in this game please answer this.

is there any simple way to earn coin?

i'm lvl 10 and already clean up all the coin from quest.
i end up likely nothing i can do to earn coin except from play bonus 200coin/4hour. effective per day 1000coin, it can buy 1 gold and 1 silver card. or wait 2 day for 1 diamond and 1 silver card.

i try bet cash in quick battle and i found that the probability of winning is 50% which is nothing to get except some exp and energy drain.

i try bet cash in pro battle and i found that the deck level of player was really random, i only have 3 diamond card, some gold and likely 20 silver from all my quest coin. and i must approve battle with 6 epic/legendary combination. well most stupid legendary/epic holder must be have more than 80% chance winning from diamond and below card. of course they have much more experience in battle too, which add their chance to win by 15%. it's almost impossible for new player to get coin from pro battle.


i have experience some bug too,, when you buy something or doing quest and your connection suddenly time out then your gold/energy was vanishing.

Re: About coin and filling up deck for free user

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:06 am
by Pr0digy
decoplo wrote:for anyone who have experience in this game please answer this.

is there any simple way to earn coin?

i'm lvl 10 and already clean up all the coin from quest.
i end up likely nothing i can do to earn coin except from play bonus 200coin/4hour. effective per day 1000coin, it can buy 1 gold and 1 silver card. or wait 2 day for 1 diamond and 1 silver card.

i try bet cash in quick battle and i found that the probability of winning is 50% which is nothing to get except some exp and energy drain.

i try bet cash in pro battle and i found that the deck level of player was really random, i only have 3 diamond card, some gold and likely 20 silver from all my quest coin. and i must approve battle with 6 epic/legendary combination. well most stupid legendary/epic holder must be have more than 80% chance winning from diamond and below card. of course they have much more experience in battle too, which add their chance to win by 15%. it's almost impossible for new player to get coin from pro battle.


i have experience some bug too,, when you buy something or doing quest and your connection suddenly time out then your gold/energy was vanishing.
Level up, that helps. Every level you go up you get gold, and more for every level you go up.

Also, rethink your strategy. It isn't all about sending the highest level of cards at somebody, it is sending the right combination of cards that gets you the wins.

I do agree with you, earning coin is very difficult. Very little coinage goes into the game (mostly through the bonuses). I can understand Momo wanting to avoid inflation, but I think the game would benefit that a player gets gold in the long run by playing. If they are winning 50%, somehow I think they should get ahead gold-wise (by more than just leveling).

-Pr0digy

Re: About coin and filling up deck for free user

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:00 pm
by ecb_admin
decoplo wrote:for anyone who have experience in this game please answer this.

is there any simple way to earn coin?

i'm lvl 10 and already clean up all the coin from quest.
i end up likely nothing i can do to earn coin except from play bonus 200coin/4hour. effective per day 1000coin, it can buy 1 gold and 1 silver card. or wait 2 day for 1 diamond and 1 silver card.

i try bet cash in quick battle and i found that the probability of winning is 50% which is nothing to get except some exp and energy drain.

i try bet cash in pro battle and i found that the deck level of player was really random, i only have 3 diamond card, some gold and likely 20 silver from all my quest coin. and i must approve battle with 6 epic/legendary combination. well most stupid legendary/epic holder must be have more than 80% chance winning from diamond and below card. of course they have much more experience in battle too, which add their chance to win by 15%. it's almost impossible for new player to get coin from pro battle.


i have experience some bug too,, when you buy something or doing quest and your connection suddenly time out then your gold/energy was vanishing.
There will be quite a lot of improvements in next version. E.g. one of them is repeatable quests. And rewards to players in new ladder system. Stay tunned!. For now, it's better you get more battle experience and get prepared.

Re: About coin and filling up deck for free user

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:00 pm
by decoplo
Pr0digy wrote:
Level up, that helps. Every level you go up you get gold, and more for every level you go up.

Also, rethink your strategy. It isn't all about sending the highest level of cards at somebody, it is sending the right combination of cards that gets you the wins.

I do agree with you, earning coin is very difficult. Very little coinage goes into the game (mostly through the bonuses). I can understand Momo wanting to avoid inflation, but I think the game would benefit that a player gets gold in the long run by playing. If they are winning 50%, somehow I think they should get ahead gold-wise (by more than just leveling).

-Pr0digy
first i want to thank you for your comment and your strategy guide in other sub-forum. it's really awesome strategy really.

first time when i lost in battle i also think that i use wrong strategy,, but after many battle that absolutely nonsense for me i realize that my strategy require some more card that i didn't even have coin to purchase it.

i try your strategy too,, the bear one. luckily i get into battle with some sabotage pittrap and "magic reflect" (i forget the name, that card active when my spell card come out and do 400magic dmg area).
i completely wasted that match, i think i could win if i get sabotage or something that can nullify sabotage and that other nulspell card. but it really hard to get that card somehow.

and about the leveling up,, where i can level up faster than doing quest because my quest all done already?

i try practice and get about 100-200 exp every practice and i not get coin from that.

with my calculation if i practice every day with about 600 energy i can get approx 40x150exp = 6000 exp. it's just 1 lvl and half for lvl 10.. with worth leveling up coin about 500coin maybe.
so every day i can get 1500coin if i add play bonus. i cant even get one diamond card from that amount.

wait, could you share your experience in gathering coin after you defeat all quest?
i would really appreciate that, an experience from a pro user surely will help most of new player too.

emm, i want ask 1 more question,, is there any way to delete account and start new account. i think my luck in this account already depleted. and i believe that luck is also skill to win some battle :p

Re: About coin and filling up deck for free user

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:50 pm
by decoplo
ecb_admin wrote: There will be quite a lot of improvements in next version. E.g. one of them is repeatable quests. And rewards to players in new ladder system. Stay tunned!. For now, it's better you get more battle experience and get prepared.
may i suggest something for new update?
it would be nice if battle system use "deck point"
what i mean with deck point is :
the total point of card in deck,, not stars but point, it's rather difficult to change because it's will affect card database as it add 1 more column to database.
the point itself based from card exact rarity and it's effect in battle, not a written effect but how a pro user will use that card to affect their battle..
i think that would be better system in "battle encounter AI".

i want ask something about energy..
my energy only refill about 190 each mourning, the fact is i left the game and go to bed approximately 5-10 hours that would refill about 250-500(400 as my cap energy only 400).
is there a bug in this or maybe there a different cap energy refill as phone inactive?

Re: About coin and filling up deck for free user

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:01 am
by winstonz
decoplo, you can upgrade you coin reward limit to >200. Then if you are offline for e longer period of time, u won't miss out because fo the 200 coin limit. I dunno about your energy situation.

Re: About coin and filling up deck for free user

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:53 am
by Pr0digy
decoplo wrote:
Pr0digy wrote: wait, could you share your experience in gathering coin after you defeat all quest?
i would really appreciate that, an experience from a pro user surely will help most of new player too.

emm, i want ask 1 more question,, is there any way to delete account and start new account. i think my luck in this account already depleted. and i believe that luck is also skill to win some battle :p
Okay, my thoughts on this is to not just practice. Find a few card combinations that work for you. If you can win 60% of the time, then betting 100 gold each round should put you ahead 200 gold every 10 games (Win 600, lose 400, net 200 from it). 70% and you are getting 400 extra gold every 10 fights. The nice thing about betting coin is that your experience goes up... tremendously! The only time I practice now is if I want to tinker with my strategy and I'm pretty sure my starting one is going to lose.

You don't need diamond cards to win. Three bears + three heals could get you near that 60% average, and that is six silver level cards. You can get some of those cards completing the quests, and if you gamble enough you'll eventually get them. Yes, you won't win all the time. There is no strategy that is foolproof (there is always a card that messes up your plan!).

Just a note, to win 60% of the time while betting gold, make sure you are winning 70-80% or more in practice. The competition does get a little bit more difficult when you start betting coin. When you up it to 300 gold, the difficulty goes up again. And when you are ready for battle loot, be ready to have your ass handed to you sometimes. That's where the big boys play! :)

As for restarting your account, I really don't see any advantage at doing so. Otherwise, you'll need to ask the admins for an answer. I don't believe in computer luck, I make my own luck. :)

-Pr0digy

Re: About coin and filling up deck for free user

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:01 pm
by decoplo
Pr0digy wrote:
decoplo wrote:
Pr0digy wrote: wait, could you share your experience in gathering coin after you defeat all quest?
i would really appreciate that, an experience from a pro user surely will help most of new player too.

emm, i want ask 1 more question,, is there any way to delete account and start new account. i think my luck in this account already depleted. and i believe that luck is also skill to win some battle :p
Okay, my thoughts on this is to not just practice. Find a few card combinations that work for you. If you can win 60% of the time, then betting 100 gold each round should put you ahead 200 gold every 10 games (Win 600, lose 400, net 200 from it). 70% and you are getting 400 extra gold every 10 fights. The nice thing about betting coin is that your experience goes up... tremendously! The only time I practice now is if I want to tinker with my strategy and I'm pretty sure my starting one is going to lose.

You don't need diamond cards to win. Three bears + three heals could get you near that 60% average, and that is six silver level cards. You can get some of those cards completing the quests, and if you gamble enough you'll eventually get them. Yes, you won't win all the time. There is no strategy that is foolproof (there is always a card that messes up your plan!).

Just a note, to win 60% of the time while betting gold, make sure you are winning 70-80% or more in practice. The competition does get a little bit more difficult when you start betting coin. When you up it to 300 gold, the difficulty goes up again. And when you are ready for battle loot, be ready to have your ass handed to you sometimes. That's where the big boys play! :)

As for restarting your account, I really don't see any advantage at doing so. Otherwise, you'll need to ask the admins for an answer. I don't believe in computer luck, I make my own luck. :)

-Pr0digy
Yesterday i found you in match..
2 bear 2 heal 1 miia 1 slasing.
Very good combination, indeed.
Oh yeah with almost 2000 hp for bear, rock hard..

Thanks for your reply, i think i already win about 80% in practice,, later i will try betting some coin then..

Re: About coin and filling up deck for free user

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:47 am
by PennFifteen
go into 100 coin bets then!

like prodigy said, as long as you win 6 Outta 10 matches u will gain coins. On top of that, you get a decent amount of coin when you level up. And if you run into a bad lose streak it will make up fold it. so get playing, you'll do fine :D

Re: About coin and filling up deck for free user

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:07 pm
by Regalian
According to this post, normal players can buy cards directly from the shop with gold? (The in game tip also says this as well). But when I go to the shop it says I need to upgrade to VIP 4. Did something get changed since this post?