Disgraceful Cheating

-bookie-
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Disgraceful Cheating

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Utterly disgraceful to watch the numbet 3 guy lose to number 1 with 2 days to go in ladder. Pathetic actually. Try win a title for real. Shameful QQ will do anything to win title. Way to go guys disgrace the game we all love,
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Round 2 Trying to lose
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Round 3 Now that's just a Joke. Akke really wants to kill that creator and lose the rest
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In case you are wondering this match was watched on replay Thursday at midnight eastern time in the United states may 28 2015.

They should replace picture of joker with these two guys.
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PennFifteen
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Re: Disgraceful Cheating

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We've expected this for months now. Finally we can prove it.

Akke. Were ashamed in you dude. No respect any more.

PS. Don't delete this post admin
justabum
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Good thing you got your free epics for winning champ cause every champ from qq chat is void in my book. That's pathetic.
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Not really a title if you don't do anything to win it. That would be some serious trouble in any other game (or any situation) I can think of. Winning by having as many friends throw all there fights against you..... bad.... there are ways to prevent things like this from happening
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smoki2vu
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well done qq... u are so smart...we asume long time ago u are smart just like this...finally we got proof. now we know for sure u are just pathetic with all u got. well done. u are all champions..Cheat champions but still champions. not many of us can brag about that. let me tech u somthing. Whole concept of playing games is compete.. This game is not fair from beginning but we all accept that and u move one lvl more..cheat to win...That s only say how pathetic u are with all your credit cards...I know from many talks u want take "China" to sky and all chinesse who not playing "your" game u call traitors..Well guys this is not war!!!! this is game where we shoud compete not cheat...

Btw. Congratz all players for cheat champion. question is: Is that all u have?1? or u can go to the next lvl just to show us how phatetic u can be?!

Shame on you all cheat champions!!!!
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ecb_admin
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Post by ecb_admin »

Thank you Bookie for the reveal of this kind of action.

We are shocked. And we will look into it and take serious action about this.
A fair game environment is the most important thing we will do anything to protect, no one can ruin it.

Due to the complexity of this action, especially difficult to accuse and judge, does anyone has brilliant idea to prevent that? These type of players may just use decks that are not so obvious but still losing intentionally.

Bookie, please write into to support@momostorm.com, to claim rewards for reporting the issue. Thanks again.
justabum
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Re: Disgraceful Cheating

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As far as preventing it, I'm not sure there is a good way. Being able to watch battles is a great start, hopefully it acts as a deterrent. Sad thing is they can still timeout with no record of it being public.
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We just here to have fun. Honestly i feel most bad for Necklet. What can you do? Well like others have already said one could simply timeout. If one wants to throw a game they just cheating themselves. My guildmates and I have been playing with each other for over half a year and longer. We've even discussed the idea of intentionally losing or timing out on the final day to win the championship. Of course we were worried that the other guilds or group of friends would do that to us and wondered if maybe this would even be necessary. But we decided lets not do that. It would be a hollow victory to dump. Even I played for champion one season and my friend Darren beat me the final day to spoil my run. It was a really hard blow to me after pushing for 8 hours and getting close. Before this I even had a low level friend from chat intentionally throw a game vs me on the last day one time. And it made me mad enough to tell him to never do that again. Such would be the case that two friends meet the final day and one does not give the other their best effort. This cannot be stopped without hiding names or preventing guildmates from matching up on only the last two days of competition. You just cant regulate human psychology. At the end of the day you should continue to show matches in live viewing bc this deters this stuff. But more importantly it has changed the dynamics of the game to much more unexpected benefits. Many of the top players use it to watch current matches going on and this influences us to constantly rotate out our starting decks. It also influences us to vary our strategies so as not to become predictable but most importantly it gives the free player the greatest opportunity to beat a top player by allowing them to carefully construct a deck that plays well vs a strong player who is active. Even the guild chat has benefitted the free players to share ideas and decks that can be beneficial vs certain players. Whatever you do you should keep this feature. In the end this really only affects 3 or 4 players so I will be the first to say that this can probably not be stopped. i will enjy the game and play hard and that is all I can do. If I do that it doesn't matter anyway bc I'll still be enjoying the game that I love.
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Re: Disgraceful Cheating

Post by ecb_admin »

Thank you for the comments, Bookie.

Watching Live Battle will definitely be kept, just as you say, it make the battle more dynamic and help free players to learn.

About prevention, it's really difficult to prevent.
- Hiding names will not help much if the two really want to cheat. They just need to communicate in real-time if they are matched even names are not shown.
- Preventing guild mates from matching up will help but also can't eliminate the issue. They just have to stay out of same guild. Anyway we will implement this algorithm in future to increase the difficulty for dp cheating.
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Re: Disgraceful Cheating

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My favorite battles are with my closest friends and guild mates. We hope that any future algorithm that were to affect matching up guild mates would possibly only affect that last few days and top ten players. For anyone else playing the game this is not an issue of their primary concern and certainly they wish and enjoy the close matches with their inner circle of friends as well. You may wish to employ an algorithm that looks at high rates of timeouts between guild mates as well as major cap differences in their battles that seem suspicious. IN the end I do believe that everyone at the top wishes to do their best and win without dumping and this may be just an isolated incident.

But even at times the top two players may be in the same guild and wish to match up with each other to fight to the end. Certainly this must allowable. An algorithm then that prevents matching up could then be something that does not kick into full effect until it sees suspicious activity such as if one person times out to another then they may not be allowed to play each other for an extended period of time or at all for the rest of the season if we are within the final 2-3 days. Though doing the same with suspiciously lower caps could also be considered I'm not 100% sure bc there have been times when I have used an unusually specially designed low cap deck in core myself and won. Such could also measure the frequency in which they play cards and if it is the first time they have used a card all season could create a red flag or a look.
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